(Kwak Cheol Yong)
(Cheol Yong has been walking on a single path since he was 17.)
(One day, I woke up,)
(and it was the world of Iron Dragon.)
(Listening to him embarrasses us.)
(Why can't I be called a super star?)
(Including himself, everyone thinks of Kim Eung Soo as a super star.)
(Car, the Garden is a big fan of Kwak Cheol Yong...)
(and he gets frustrated.)
(His unique personality...)
(gets him the position of Iron Dragon's successor.)
(According to Cheol Yong, Bassagong is the future of Korea.)
(The man who has still got the unique voice,)
(Park Sang Min is just a hairy man Cheol Yong likes to make fun of.)
(A sophisticated musician, Host Jung Jae Hyung)
(He ditches the sophistication and gets used to the spiteful comments?)
Can you put your life on the line?
(He puts his life on the line when he talks.)
(Even the 4 hosts can't avoid his malicious comments.)
(Forget about the fun and double it!)
("Lose the Shell" begins now.)
(Episode 637)
To go along with the vibe of the autumn night,
let me begin with a piece of poetry.
Lose the Shell.
Radio Star shall stay and the shells of variety shows shall go.
Lose the Shell.
I, a competent man, shall stay...
and the shell of Yoon Jong Shin shall go.
They're actually the same age.
Lose the Shell. Sweet love shall stay...
and the shall of panic disorder and menopause shall go.
Lose the Shell.
Freedom of Expression shall stay...
and the shell of pretense and censorship shall go.
That's right. As always, we're ready to turn the stars inside out...
to find their everything, from the fruits to the shells.
You're watching a high-end star threshing program,
- Radio Star. - Star.
Hello, Jae Hyung.
Welcome, Jae Hyung.
He's been on many variety shows.
I heard you were very much interested...
in our show.
(What are you talking about?)
You haven't heard of that?
He has a very unique laughter.
Nice to meet you, Gook Jin.
- Nice to meet you too. - Seriously.
We know each other since "Starry Night".
- That's when he debuted. - Right. I debuted then.
- Lee Moon Sae's "Starry Night". - I joined the show...
when they started to do the show with a live audience.
Just like Jong Shin, he talks so much about the past.
He does.
(Laughing)
It means you're that old.
(Jong Shin is brought up every once in a while.)
(He's already exhausted.)
- I feel dizzy. - All right.
Today, we have invited people who would like to fix...
the misunderstanding that came from their image.
"Lose the Shell".
A traitor, a gangster,
and a corrupt prosecutor.
Despite all the villains he played,
he's received love with his great acting skills.
He's become popular again...
thanks to the best character he has ever played.
"Double the fun."
- Actor Kim Eung Soo. - Welcome.
He's the original hairy singer with sunglasses,
but he got the sunglasses stolen by Zion.T...
and got the hair stolen by Yoo Byung Jae.
Now he's just a singer.
Unlike his appearance, he is well-known as a kind-hearted man.
A man that is soft like silken tofu, Park Sang Min.
- He's been through a lot. - Right.
He won a music competition show.
He's known for his amazing vocal color...
that is comparable to Dean and Crush's.
But with his appearance, he's often mistaken as a gangster.
He's a singer with a great visual.
A man with a surprising voice,
Car, the Garden. Cha Jung Won.
He's so handsome.
This man received...
the Best Rap and Hip-hop Album Award in 2019.
Those who know much about hip-hop all knows this rapper.
That's what it says here, but why do I not know him?
A prodigal rapper who has never been on a boat,
Bassagong!
Bassagong.
- Welcome. - Welcome.
(Kim Eung Soo, Park Sang Min, Car, the Garden, Bassagong)
Welcome.
- Nice to meet you. - Oh, my.
- It's been a while. - It has indeed.
- Nice to meet you. - It's nice to see you.
Welcome, all four of you.
Eung Soo, I heard you're getting popular again lately?
(Groaning)
Are you really getting popular again?
I feel like there's Kwak Cheol Yong sitting there.
There are a lot of memes about you.
There are a lot, right?
I heard you're getting popular again.
Right.
Recently, one of my seniors told me...
that this was getting popular on YouTube...
and sent me a link of a commercial...
that is a parody of Kwak Cheol Yong.
(Kim Eung Soo in His 2nd Heyday.)
(The Internet is Crazy about Kwak Cheol Yong)
("Just Double It", Kwak Cheol Yong Syndrome on the Internet)
Just double it.
"Just double it."
(Kwak Cheol Yong Syndrome hit the internet hard.)
(Hey, I started to have a bad breath...)
(since I was 17.)
(His parodies have created a big buzz on the Internet.)
And it was so well-made.
Even I was surprised.
One day, I woke up,
and it was the world of Iron Dragon.
Iron Dragon. That means Cheol Yong.
Cheol Yong.
I didn't get that.
(Iron Dragon)
Kwak Cheol Yong is...
- getting popular again these days. - Yes.
And people on the Internet...
even made a continuity of a commercial.
- Really? - Yes.
- All right. - So that's the continuity.
I wanted to hear you reading the line.
Could you please read it once?
"Go Ni, I bought a gastritis insurance..."
It's "gastric cancer".
- It's not "gastritis". - It's not "gastritis".
- It's "gastric cancer". - It has to be a serious disease.
Let's put this closer to him.
- Let's put this closer to him. - There's no need.
- I can read it. - Come on.
- I can read it. - Put this closer to him.
- My eyes can see well. - Are you sure?
- This is just fine. - Let's start over.
"Go Ni, I bought the gastritis insurance..."
"Gastric cancer"!
- It's "gastric cancer". - You can't buy an insurance...
- for a gastritis. - It's "gastric cancer".
Goodness.
He should be closer to it.
"Gastric cancer".
"Go Ni, I bought a gastric cancer insurance when I was 17."
"Let's say there are 100 people..."
"who bought the insurance at that age."
"Then I'm the only one who is so well-insured."
This is amazing.
- It's not just a meme. - Try the one below.
Cheol Yong, it says the traffic is bad on the Olympic Bridge.
Did the Mapo Bridge collapse, you idiot?
Turn on the map.
He can do all of these.
This burger has only one patty. Would you like a double patty one?
Just double it!
Awesome.
(Burger commercials, come to me.)
That was great.
- He's good. - See?
- This is from "Tazza"? - This is the most popular quote...
from "Tazza" these days.
- Really? - Yes.
Car, the Garden. I heard you were a big fan of Eung Soo.
I'm totally addicted to him.
Once, I even posted his footages on my social media...
the whole day.
- Really? - The footages.
- Today, I feel... - Because he's so funny.
Then can you say this line too?
Yes. There are a lot of other lines I can do too.
- Could you show us? - Personally, my favorite line is...
"Mu Seok, if you lose again this time, you will be dead meat."
(Creepy)
(Beaming)
- Is that from "Tazza"? - Yes. Here's another one...
from another movie, "Nameless Gangster : Rules of the Time".
He's a huge fan of his.
"Do you think I haven't investigated gangsters?"
- He's really good. - That's it.
He's good.
These two movies are...
- He sounds just like him. - So...
since about a year ago,
whenever I go to a movie set or a restaurant,
young people like him come to me...
and ask me to take pictures with them.
And they always say,
"Sir, I know all the lines of 'Tazza' by heart."
And they would copy my lines.
I was so grateful.
And this happened recently.
If you're offered a role for the fourth "Tazza" movie...
I won't take the role.
I won't do it.
The world-class movie director, Akira Kurosawa said this.
"No sequel is as good as the original one."
- That's true. - It means not to do the sequel.
It means no sequel can be as great as the first one.
- I see. - Plus, Kwak Cheol Yong is dead.
- So... - He could have been a twin.
If they really want to keep the character,
they might put his twin in the movie.
- Where's the fun in that? - Goodness.
What if we thought he was dead but actually he didn't?
That won't be fun. He's dead.
(It's impossible to bring Kwak Cheol Yong back to life.)
Maybe that's why...
there was even an occasion where someone impersonated you?
Yes. I was very surprised too.
Let's see how this person...
- Oh, dear. - impersonated him.
His user name is "Kim Yes Soo".
Because "Eung" can mean "yes" as well.
(Kim Eung Soo)
- His daughter Eun Seo posted this. - Eun Seo posted this.
"All the pictures and posts that were posted..."
"under my father's name are all fake."
"His agency is informed about this situation,"
"and I'm writing this on behalf of my father,"
"who doesn't use social media."
Eun Seo wrote it.
The account has 100,000 followers.
Did the impersonation damaged you in any way?
What happened?
- It didn't damage me. - I see.
Actually, this is my first time...
seeing the whole text Eun Seo wrote.
It's very well-written, though. The text is simple...
(He loves his daughter.)
and it has everything that she wants to say in it.
Is she a high school senior? How old is she?
- She's a high school junior. - I see.
I heard she used to be a skater. Does she still skate?
She quit skating...
- Already? - and went to the US.
- Why? - That's common.
Why did she go to the US?
When she was in her 8th grade,
she told me, "Dad, I have something to tell you."
I asked her why and she said, "Korea is too small..."
"to make my dream come true."
She said she wanted to go to the US.
I said, "Then go."
"If Korea is too small for you, go to the US."
- "Just double it." - Exactly.
(Wincing)
"Just double it."
Sorry, I can't seem to stop saying that line.
That didn't really suit the situation.
"Just double it" doesn't really go with the situation.
- I just said one thing to Eun Seo. - To Eun Seo.
- He's amazing. - "Go."
- So she went alone? - She did.
It must be pretty expensive to support her financially.
I'm sure it was double.
- Right. It's very expensive. - He suddenly looks sad.
Even the exchange rate is bad these days.
So when she visited Korea during her summer vacation,
I said, "Come back."
(Laughing)
- "Come back." - Next year?
So she just visited the US for a while.
- "I'm in trouble." - Exactly.
Next year, she's becoming a high school senior.
"I might become dead meat."
(I might become dead meat.)
Sang Min, during the pre-interview,
you said that you were hurt badly to the point that you were shocked.
If I talk about how I've been hurt on a TV show,
I would be in big trouble with my wife.
- Come on. - But still.
Were you hurt by a woman?
- No, no. - Then why would your wife be mad?
His wife would think,
"Honey, stop whining on a TV show."
"It's not even funny."
Actually, I'm sure everyone knows this.
- I've been deceived a lot. - That's right.
- I've been deceived a lot. - What do you mean?
- He was scammed a lot. - He was scammed a lot.
You should wake up.
(He was scammed?)
Did your wife scam you?
No.
- Come on. - Seriously.
- Of course, not. - Things are hard today.
Did you have to make it funny?
- This was a serious talk. - You know what?
Let me give you an example.
I met Sang Min on a TV show a decade ago or so.
He hung out with this guy...
who graduated from my college.
And they had been friends for 20 years.
- Right. - You were.
One day, he was gone.
I asked Sang Min about him.
He said, "Hey, he conned me big time."
That's what he had told me.
- He was conned by his friends. - I see.
I was conned several times like that.
Since I was okay,
I talked about how I had been scammed on TV shows nonchalantly.
But in my wife's perspective,
I looked like a fool.
- You discussed how you were conned. - You were conned, after all.
- Right. - People around him...
would gossip about that. "Gosh, he was conned again."
That's why I didn't talk about it for several years on TV.
- They must use correct legal terms. - What is it?
The reporters used completely irrelevant legal terms...
- in their headlines. - Without checking them.
I cried for three days.
- It must be upsetting. - It's not what you want.
- Seriously. - When you cry,
do your tears flow down to your mustache?
- I'm curious. - It wouldn't work.
- His glasses are in the way. - I'm just curious.
- I'm curious too. - You are, aren't you?
- I'm curious too. - Many viewers are curious.
- It wouldn't go past this point. - Aren't you curious?
- I'm so curious. - I'm really curious.
- I'm really curious. - Actually,
I cry a lot.
The tears fall off from my mustache.
- They do, right? - They might stay on your mustache.
- That's what I meant. - Anyway,
is that why you're working...
behind your wife's back these days?
I have a lot of work.
If I have 10 projects, I do 6 out of 10 projects...
out of loyalty for my friends.
- Out of loyalty? - You don't get paid for those.
- I don't get paid. - Really?
- Really? - I'll keep doing that until I die.
- You want to use him, don't you? - He can't understand it at all.
I want to book him for my 70th birthday in advance.
(I like free things.)
- For my 70th birthday. - I'll come at all costs.
But you have 10 years to go.
That's why.
So you do 6 of them without any payment.
- But among those... - Why do you do that?
That's my style.
I do it for my own satisfaction.
- When I see how happy they are, - Right.
- That gives you happiness. - that makes me so happy.
I kept thinking this as I was listening to his story.
- 6 out of 10 are free. - Yes.
If you do 1 or 2 events for free,
people get used to that. They keep calling you.
- Right. - Exactly.
For example, let's say that I invited him.
"Hey, if I call him up, he will come and perform for free."
My friend, Gook Jin, might ask...
if Sang Min could do the same for him. I'd say, "Let me call him."
- And he would do it for free again. - Right.
I'm saying that there's a higher chance of getting conned like that.
Will you pay him for his performance for your 70th birthday?
I said I wouldn't pay him in the beginning.
- I asked him to do it for free. - No, you just said that.
Listen to me.
- Listen. - You just said you wouldn't.
- Listen. - You said you wouldn't pay him.
- When you wouldn't pay him, - It's not that.
- how could you say that? - He just said he wouldn't pay.
Think about it. He said 6 out of 10 were free.
Why can't mine be 1 of those 6 events?
- That makes no sense. - Then...
- A lot of people are like him. - That's true.
Right.
Say that he came to my birthday party and sang three songs.
And my friend, Gook Jin, saw that.
He'd ask, "Could you help me get a free deal too?"
I'd say, "He'll do it if I ask."
I'd say to him, "He and I went to the same school."
I would do it.
He's being exposed without any protection to possible scams.
But I don't consider that a scam.
- Right. It's doing a good deed. - That's not a scam.
It just means that he's being helpful.
- I would open up to the person... - Usually, it's about events.
- Are you dating them then? - It's about his performance.
- "Dating"? - It's not that.
(He's the only one looking serious.)
This is so hard.
- He needs to tighten... - Okay.
his circle of friends if need be.
- He has a point. - Right.
- But I'll just do how I do things. - But it's up to you.
- Right. - Yes.
If I do 6 of 10 events out of loyalty,
- Right. - four of them...
- You have a source of income. - I get paid for those events.
- I see. - When I do,
I do this once in a while for my wife.
It's a surprise for her. I withdraw the cash in 50-dollar bills.
I withdraw the cash.
- I put it in my back pocket. - And you just give it to her.
- I go home. - You give her the cash.
I say, "I was filming a TV show."
"I hurt my back."
"Can you put on a pain relief patch?"
She brings it.
And when she's about to put it on,
the bills fall off.
She really likes it.
- That's cool. - You can add a twist to it.
Have you ever put the bills somewhere deep?
What? Like suppository?
- Car, the Garden... - This is how things are here.
- Yes. - This is how it is here.
Car, the Garden,
after winning the music competition TV program,
- Yes, I did. - you made a name for yourself.
- It was on SBS, right? - Yes.
(He demonstrated a mystical and sweet voice.)
It's Car, the Garden. Congratulations!
(Car, the Garden wins the competition!)
- The show was about a competition. - Right.
- You won the competition. - I see.
Your stage name is Car, the Garden.
By the way,
a lot of people know this. I know it.
- Do you not know? - I don't know.
- You know, right? You don't? - I was curious.
A lot of people know, but you guys don't know
- That's unexpected. - A lot of people don't know.
At first...
- I know! Yes, I know. - You do, right? Exactly.
Do you know why he uses that as his stage name?
No, I don't.
- Right. - Right.
Can you explain why?
- Jae Hyung, can you do it? - He's right here.
- He's a weird host. - Listen.
He's right here. Why would you ask Jae Hyung instead?
- Are you checking if I really know? - He's weird.
I asked him because he knows.
It's better to hear from him.
- His real name is Cha Jung Won. - Yes.
- My real name is Cha Jung Won. - I see.
- It's from your name? - I get it.
"Cha" means a car. And "Jung Won" means a garden.
- That's why. - Car, the Garden.
- Car, the Garden. - Car, the Garden.
Oh Hyuk gave him that name. Oh Hyuk named him.
- "The garden..." I get it. - It's not that complicated.
(His naming skill is quite impressive.)
Car, the Garden, you are worried about something...
after this episode airs.
As for Radio Star,
I'm afraid that people around me might give a lot of attention.
I'm worried about that.
(Getting ahead of himself)
- Because of their attention? - Or people might not.
That's right.
Usually, one guest gets all the attention.
(Kim Gu Ra: Expert of Radio Star)
- When you look at the guests, - Just one guest?
- usually, one guest gets attention. - Right.
That happens.
- You must do a good job here. - Okay.
- What? He must. - Do your best.
Exactly. Only Eung Soo's name will go viral.
- Right. - Yes.
- Only he will go viral. - That's right.
- You should also go viral. - Let's share the wealth.
- Let's do our best. - Okay.
(We'll double the segments.)
Bassagong, the CEO of your label is more famous than you.
- Yes. - Who is it?
The CEO is Ha Neul.
- Lee Ha Neul? - Yes.
(Every hip-hop enthusiast knows this rapper.)
(He shows his reality more instead of acting pretentious.)
(He created his own genre that sets him apart from others.)
(He won the Korean Music Award of Hip-hop and Rap this year.)
- Yes. Yes, yes. - It's Ha Neul?
So he's the CEO of your label.
Are you the only artist there? There were a lot of artists before.
The former artists aren't with the label anymore.
There are a few artists including myself.
You won't know them even if I name them.
- We didn't even know you at first. - But still. Yes.
- You can just tell us. - He's a curious host.
Who else is there besides you?
You won't know them.
- I know that. - Just tell us.
- We didn't even know you at first. - Who else are there besides you?
- There's Blang. - Who?
- "Blang". - "Blang".
And Gong CD used to be a rapper too. You don't know him, do you?
- "Gong CD"? - That was a long time ago.
From Amoeba Culture.
- Gong CD? - But he goes by Gong now.
- What? - He changed the name to Gong?
From Gong CD...
- He got rid of CD? - He got rid of CD.
- He goes by Gong now. I see. - Yes.
Why did you name yourself Bassagong?
- You've never been on a boat. - Right.
I'm curious about this too.
I wanted to give myself a Korean stage name.
It was really hard to come up with a Korean name.
- Right. - A Korean rap name.
I don't know about other people.
- But rappers have English names. - Right.
When I thought about a name, I liked the chilled vibe...
of a boatman.
I liked that image, so I named myself that.
You could add "Yo-heave-ho" in front of your name.
- That never crossed your name? - Right.
- Isn't that nice? "Yo-heave-ho". - That could work, you know.
- You know? - "Yo-heave-ho".
- "Yo-heave-ho". Isn't it nice? - Okay.
- I like his name, Bassagong. - Yes, I like it.
- I like it. - It's nice.
It's like you're paddling forward...
- in the river of music. - That's right.
- It could be interpreted like that. - It's a cool name.
What's your most famous hit song?
I don't have one.
- But there must be one. - No, I don't.
- Anything? - No, I don't.
Is there a famous song among your songs?
- A song I might know? - Everyone knows hit songs.
- What's the song your fans like? - Right.
- "Tang-A" is the most famous one. - "Tang-A".
- "Tang-A". - "Tang-Uh". What kind of...
It's not "Tang-Uh".
It's "Tang-A".
- "Tang-A". - "Tang-A"?
- "Tang-A". - "Tang-A".
- Does it come from "libertine"? - "Tang-A".
- Yes. - "Tang-A".
- So your song, "Tang-A"... - Yes.
- Can you sing us a snippet? - Yes.
- Just a snippet. - It can't air on TV.
- I can't. I start out cursing. - It's a swearword.
Even if you do,
I would like to hear how the song sounds.
- Just a snippet. - Should I just curse?
- Yes. Go ahead. - Yes.
- I'll do the first line. - That's all right.
(Cursing)
It was only a snippet.
How was it?
- We should move on, right? - It's nice.
I mean, that's not a swearword these days.
(Check out this great song, "Tang-A" on the music website.)
Bassagong, you were offered to be a judge on "Show Me the Money".
- You turned that down. - Yes.
But you decided to be on Radio Star.
Actually, I criticized the show a lot in the beginning.
- You criticized the show. - I see.
And I'm doing music...
not for the money.
- Right. - I do it for something else.
So I turned it down.
I'm here because I'm a fan of the show like Car, the Garden.
I guess your family is well-off.
- Not at all. - I guess so.
After I started to make music,
I've been working as a part-timer to earn a living.
Do you still work as a part-timer?
- Yes. - What do you do?
I work as a cleaner at Ha Neul's agency.
- Cleaner? - Yes.
- You mean a real janitor? - Ha Neul was on the phone...
while I was with him.
He was looking for a cleaner.
After hearing that, I asked if I could take the job.
- With the same payment? - I'd get the same treatment.
How's the pay?
If I were to calculate it...
It only takes an hour to finish the job.
It takes only 1 hour, but I get paid 70 to 80 dollars.
- What? That's a lot. - That's a good rate.
- He's paying you more. - His hourly rate is crazy.
- You chose the job for the money. - Exactly.
- I did get the job for the money. - He loves money.
- Right. - He seems to love money.
- You should be a cleaner instead. - You get paid that much?
My hourly rate isn't 70 dollars.
If I clean the whole building,
the pay comes out to 70 to 80 dollars.
It's been two years since I had this job.
- At first, it took me three hours. - You're fast.
I got better at it.
- You finish quickly now. - I could shorten the time.
If you're getting paid 70 to 80 dollars,
- That's a lot. - it's not regular cleaning.
It's...
- I clean from the 1st to 4th floor. - To the 4th floor.
Do you hang in the air to clean?
No, I don't do that.
- It's a dangerous job. - What are you talking about?
Why would he do that?
- How could he do that every day? - Right.
He'd be on "Show Me the Money" then.
How could he do that every day?
(He works as much as he gets paid for.)
Eung Soo and our show have a great chemistry.
You said that you like our show because...
- you don't need to hold back. - Yes.
There's no point for me to hold back.
Why would I walk on eggshells around Gu Ra or Gook Jin?
- Right. - You do whatever you want.
- Yes. - Right.
Besides,
the TV ratings for this show aren't that high anymore.
(The TV ratings for this show aren't that high anymore.)
Compared to before...
That hit the spot.
- I shouldn't think this way. - You've changed.
Our show isn't the only one with low ratings.
If you look at the TV ratings,
one is for the metropolitan area. The other, for the entire country.
The latter one is lower than the former.
Nowadays, we check 2049 ratings.
And our ratings are high for that.
So it's not that bad.
I don't know things in detail.
Right. Exactly.
(He knows nothing about that.)
Eung Soo, during the preliminary interview,
you gave a lecture to the writers regarding Gu Ra?
Let me tell you what I said.
I told the writers...
that they must take good care of Gu Ra.
Here's why.
- You all know Song Hae, right? - Yes.
There's one thing I always study about Song Hae.
"How could he be on the same show for that long of a time?"
When I think about him, I'm reminded of...
Gu Ra.
That's why I told them that they must take care of him.
For example, Radio Star...
- Aren't you 50 now, Gu Ra? - Yes.
- He's 50. - Right.
If the show keeps going for 20 years, he'd be 70.
If Gu Ra stays as a host of Radio Star until the age of 70,
that means the show, Radio Star,
would continue to exist.
They must take care of him.
I didn't know that Secret Santa for Gu Ra is joining us today.
- He keeps praising Gu Ra. - Exactly.
Even I'm embarrassed after hearing this.
- You must make a TV program... - Right.
- That's a well-wishing comment. - that will remain in history.
He said such nice words about me. Thank you, Eung Soo.
(He shares his sincere feelings.)
Sang Min, there was one time when you were moved...
- after seeing Gu Ra on TV. - Is that so?
A few years ago, I was on Radio Star.
I gave the cast a pair of sunglasses.
They were completely brand-new.
- Right. - Right.
I gave the sunglasses to them.
I haven't seen other people wearing the sunglasses on TV.
- I wear them. That's right. - But Gu Ra...
- He wore them a few times. - That's right.
I wore them several times.
- On "King of Mask Singer"... - That's right.
- The lights hurt his eyes. - It's because of the lights.
But it's a good pair of sunglasses.
I like them.
I have a few more pairs of sunglasses,
- but I wear them often. - Really?
I saw that on TV.
- That was moving. - Yes. I'm wearing them well.
I thought he must've thought about me.
No, I didn't.
- He didn't do that. He hates it. - I didn't do that.
I didn't do that.
(Gu Ra will save that in his heart starting today.)
Bassagong. Car, the Garden. You guys are...
best friends, aren't you?
Yes, we are close friends.
Being here is a dream come true for me.
One thing about this bothered me.
That I'm here with this guy.
- You didn't know. - I didn't know he would be here.
But the thing is that I've been...
- on more TV shows than him. - Right.
When we drink in private,
I brag about it a lot.
- I show off. - You show off.
- "I was on this and that." - Right.
I say things like... "Have you been on 'Omniscient Interfering View'?"
(That's a deciding factor whether he's a superstar or not.)
I show off.
But we're in the same league now.
That's why you didn't like it.
- They are on the show together. - That was why.
- That was a bit annoying. - You are best friends.
Car, the Garden, when you met him, did you know he was a rapper?
- No, I had no idea. - Go on.
When I meet hip-hop artists,
- there are sidekicks. - Right.
I thought he was one of them.
- Just like a trainee? - A sidekick next to a rapper.
- Like he would drive for them. - Right.
(Shutting his eyes tight)
He's not an agent.
- They always hang out with rappers. - Right. There are people like that.
(The story of his best friend's first impression of him)
Sang Min, after seeing Bassagong,
you said that he belonged to your circle.
- I listened to a few of his songs. - I see.
He's very manly.
First, he's wearing sunglasses.
And he has a mustache.
In those areas, he's similar.
So I like him.
(Feeling shy)
Right.
- I like Bassagong, - Give that to him.
- so I brought a present. - Give it to only Bassagong.
Just in case,
I brought two.
He can choose 1 of these 2.
The company made these just for me.
- Those are beautiful. - Put them on.
- Put them on. - I don't think he likes them.
That's not my style.
Put them on.
- Why not? They are nice. - He doesn't like them.
- Put them on. Just put them on. - You shouldn't have brought them.
- Yes. Put them on. - I'll put them on.
- You should at least put them on. - Right.
- Let me see. - I can't see myself.
- This... - You look great.
- They do suit you pretty well. - Lower them a bit.
I can't see myself.
- This pair... - With the sunglasses on,
you look like a welder.
- I think... - No, they cover a lot of your face.
- he does look like a welder. - This one...
- Try them on. - Yes.
That's really not my style.
- Put them on. - Just put them on.
Try them on once. You don't have to wear them later.
Try them on. You don't have to wear them later.
- Hip-hop artists call this swag. - Hey.
You like these kinds of sunglasses?
- Yes. - These kinds of sunglasses?
- You look like a rapper. - Be honest.
- Doesn't he look good? - Take a close look.
- Come closer. - You look great.
He looks like Lenny Kravitz.
- Yes. He does. - With these on...
He looks like a taxi driver.
You know what? Don't give them any more presents.
Don't give them anything.
- Don't give them anything. - You shouldn't give them presents.
- It's not that. - I really don't like this.
- They're not grateful. - Why? I like them.
Just tell him to wear his own.
- Here's what I think. - That's so funny.
Not wearing them...
- after getting them is ruder. - Then what about yours?
Let him try on yours.
- Do you like either one of them? - Yes, you should try them on.
- Your face has depth now. - It's a hard pair to pull off.
What do you think? Do you like them?
He looks like Michael Jackson.
- I love them. - I see.
- He chose a nice pair. - I see.
- Sang Min. Put them away. - Yes?
Just put them away.
Put them away.
- Put them away. - These days...
- Put them away. - Why? I like them.
- Bassagong... - You know what?
The fact that a senior musician thought about juniors...
- and that he brought a gift... - Right.
is really cool.
And he said that receiving a gift he wouldn't wear...
- That's right. - was not right.
Besides, everyone has his own style.
I don't give sunglasses I've worn before to other people.
- You give the ones you throw out. - No.
(Laughing)
(The one who loves more is bound to hurt more.)
You are watching a high-end music program,
Radio Star with four guests whose strong and fierce appearances...
cover up their soft inner sides.
Let's start today's discussion, "Lose the Shell".
Eung Soo, during the preliminary interview,
you sent the writers a list of things we are not allowed to do.
Don't make me do...
things I've already done before.
Are you talking about the dance?
- Didn't you do that a decade ago? - Right.
(Dancing)
(Cute sound)
(He showed a cute dance with a not-so-cute face of his.)
Viewers don't like it.
They want you to stop it.
- "Why do you do the same thing?" - Right.
- "Stop it." - I think...
I can understand that.
This can only hurt me, not help me.
- So you don't want to do it. - Yes.
Then do you have other constructive stories?
- Something new. - Yes, something new.
- Other constructive stories? - Something good.
Lately, I've been thinking about this.
Starting now, the barometer of my life's success...
isn't money.
- It's my health. - I see.
My current life goal is...
walking on my two feet with a straight back...
while looking confident. That's my goal.
It's not about money.
But here's a thing.
You can't maintain your health just with food.
You can't maintain your health just by eating well.
You must exercise regularly.
- So every day, I climb... - Isn't watching him dance...
- better than this? - Can we watch your dance?
- This is why we ask that you dance! - Why are we listening to that?
- Just dance for us. - People would rather see you dance.
- You should've seen their faces. - This is why we want to see that.
- This is why we make this request. - They were zoning out.
- This is why we ask for talents. - Right. Please.
- You know what? - Goodness.
I'm showing symptoms of menopause.
My stamina has dropped.
- I cause accidents in parking lots. - Right.
You wouldn't have been in those accidents when you were young.
- That's right. - That's true.
The owner of the vehicle that my car had a minor collision with...
was a young police officer.
I called the number, and he came.
He must have been really surprised to see me.
But that wasn't a place people often get into accidents.
After taking care of the accident,
I was having some thoughts by myself in my car.
(He was alone after taking care of the accident.)
"My gosh, this is shocking."
And I said, "Officer,"
"I'll go to the police station..."
"and give up my license."
When the young police officer heard that,
- What was that? - here's what he said.
- You jumped so many steps. - Why did you do that?
It's equivalent to saying, "I should just die."
(An extreme realization caused by a sense of shame)
Eung Soo, you said that Sang Min...
is the definition of looking soft while having a strong inner side.
The very first time I saw Sang Min,
I could feel that he was a born to be a singer.
He exudes his own style as a musician.
With that said, it means that he's been a good singer.
When I looked into his life, there was such a sad story.
After getting scammed, he faced a lot of financial damages.
You lost millions of dollars, right?
So...
You know,
we concluded the story about the scam a while ago.
Can't I bring it up again?
You can.
He's right. There isn't a rule.
There isn't a rule. Okay.
This is why your viewers' ratings fell.
You are mistaken. Don't attack us like that.
- You are mistaken. - Gosh, he is offending us again.
Can't I tell the story again in an entertaining way?
- You can. - You are right.
All right.
People who have experienced...
such struggle and pain...
- are soft on the outside. - That's right.
He is soft on the outside and tough on the inside.
He is soft on the outside.
What are your first impressions...
of Bassagong and Car, the Garden?
When I was with them...
in the waiting room earlier,
I didn't think they were musicians.
I see.
- I wondered, "What do they do?" - "Who are they?"
You must have made a guess.
I let my imagination run wild.
"Office workers at regular companies?"
"That can't be right."
- Why would office workers be here? - The viewers' ratings did fall,
but we wouldn't invite office workers to the show.
- "That can't be right." - "That can't be right."
"Who could they be?"
Isn't it easy to guess? A celebrity is...
an actor, a singer, or a comedian.
- There are only three types. - Seriously.
I didn't think they were comedians.
- Then what? - You didn't think so.
- Actors. - They...
They would never be actors.
Then what? Then what?
What are you getting at?
If they aren't singers, comedians,
or actors? What are they?
- They could be actors. - What are they?
Thus, I expanded and reduced...
the possibilities.
Then Sang Min told me,
"They are musicians."
One genre in music...
- is ballad. - Yes.
They didn't seem to be balladeers.
So I thought, "They must be rappers."
(That was my conclusion.)
It's understandable that he reached such a conclusion.
Sang Min, I heard that...
there is an image you want to lose.
"He looks like he smokes and drinks."
He doesn't drink.
He looks like he smokes and drinks a lot.
He doesn't drink.
- I see. - I said this a few times on TV.
So many people have told me,
"He looks like he makes bootleg liquor."
- Some people have said, - Bootleg liquor.
- "He looks like a drug dealer. - That's right.
You don't drink or smoke at all.
I never learned how to smoke.
Alcohol doesn't agree with my body.
Do you have favorite food?
Do you have anything you like?
Until a few years ago, I added seven spoons of sugar...
- to my coffee. - Why?
I liked sweet food.
- You stopped doing that. - Yes.
Because of his effort,
- his voice has remained the same. - That's right.
It's really admirable.
He took good care of himself.
- Your vocal cords age as well. - That's right.
It makes me sad,
so I practice a lot.
Do you sing your songs in the original key?
Yes, I do.
Your voice has remained the same thanks to your effort.
Would you sing "One Love" in the original key?
(They ask Sang Min to sing "One Love".)
Yes.
(Love for you wells up)
(Inside my heart)
(His voice contains the old-fashioned sentimentality.)
You know...
Your vocal cords aged.
"Your vocal cords aged."
We were touched by the song!
- How could you say that? - The low notes...
The low notes...
He said he takes good care of himself!
He doesn't even eat sugar anymore!
- He doesn't drink or smoke! - Seriously.
It's just my singing style.
- It's Sang Min's singing style. - It's just my singing style.
You know,
he does anything you ask him to do.
On the other hand,
Eung Soo refuses to do the Jinjinbari Dance.
He must have been asked so many times.
It's my first time on Radio Star as the special MC, right?
I am a bit curious about the dance.
I am just saying.
You can check it out on YouTube.
(You can check it out on YouTube.)
It doesn't suit the image of Kwak Cheol Yong.
That's right. Don't do the Jinjinbari Dance.
- It doesn't. - Don't do the Jinjinbari Dance.
He did it really well in the past.
(Use YouTube.)
Car, the Garden you want to clear up a misunderstanding about your use.
- I am 30 years old. - What?
- Were you born in 1990? - Yes, I was born in 1990.
Which celebrities are the same age as you?
Some of them would be...
Kang Min Kyung, Kim Yuna,
- and Park Bo Young. - Kim Yuna.
30 years old?
(It's unbelievable.)
You are worse than me.
- Eung Soo, he is like you. - He is suffering from many attacks.
People called me an old man ever since I was in eighth grade.
Still, I wasn't like Car, the Garden in my 30s.
(I wasn't like Car, the Garden.)
You tried everything to change up your image.
Yes, I lost 20 to 30kg.
I changed my hairstyle.
I even got cosmetic injections.
- Really? - You care a lot about your looks.
I wondered if they would help.
I care a lot about my looks when I appear on TV.
People can be mean on the internet.
They comment without thinking.
I didn't think I would suffer any damage,
but their words hurt me more than I expected.
That's right.
One time, something ridiculous occurred.
- In a competition program, - "The Fan".
I ranked top five...
and starred in the live show.
My manager woke up late,
so I had to take a taxi to the broadcasting station.
With my stage costume, I arrived in a taxi.
A security guard stopped me...
and asked me who I am.
"I am a contestant."
"What's your name?"
"I am Car, the Garden."
(Security)
"Is there a contestant called Car, the Garden?"
He was suspicious.
"Is there a contestant called Car, the Garden?"
Upon receiving the answer, he let me in.
(Go on in.)
Bassagong, there is something you hear repeatedly...
because of your image.
On YouTube, I have had a drunken show.
- Really? - The rappers I invited...
and I talked over a few drinks.
Since we were close friends,
the conversation was very rough.
We didn't hold back. We drank...
until we passed out.
That's right.
- I showed my drunken habits. - You let yourself go.
Usually, I am introverted.
But my fans ask me...
to curse at them.
Because you are introverted,
it's hard for you to share the studio with someone.
I am used to living frugally...
because of my parents.
After I pee,
I don't flush.
- I only flush after a few times. - That's normal.
Eung Soo does the same.
He talked about it the last time...
- and caused a controversy. - That's right.
Some said...
- it's a good idea to save water. - Some said, "Who does that?"
Didn't you ask us not to talk about this?
You told us not to talk about your frugal lifestyle.
I did.
Should we stop?
Aren't you happy to meet someone like you?
Yes, I am happy.
(He goes back on his words because he is happy.)
- You know... - He is happy.
- You don't flush. - I will make sure he dances today.
- You don't flush. - No, I don't.
My friends don't want to see that.
Let's say my friends spilled water.
- You only need one tissue. - That's right.
I don't want to see them do this.
That's right.
Gosh, I am seeing the future of Korea.
The future of Korea?
I can't believe a young man like him exists.
Bassagong, flexing is in vogue in the hip hop scene.
However, you think it's childish.
I don't understand...
why you need to wear luxury watches.
"Why do you need to wear luxury watches?"
(Many hip hop musicians flex by showing off their watches.)
When I see all hip hop musicians wear Rolex watches,
I think it's funny.
- That's right. - There are other watches.
- That's right. - You can flex in different ways.
- That's right. - I see.
You don't relate to the culture of showing off...
that is prevalent in the hip hop scene.
I understand the culture,
but I am different.
Don't you think you would buy the same watch...
if you make enough money?
No. If someone gives me that watch, I would sell it.
(If someone gives me that watch, I would sell it.)
Who would give you that watch?
- I wouldn't buy it. - I see.
I see.
- What if you make a lot of money? - There is nothing I want...
even if I make a lot of money.
Really?
If you have a lot of money,
you and your parents will be comfortable.
I have never been uncomfortable.
My parents might be a bit uncomfortable,
- but I have never felt that. - I see.
Then you should do it for your parents.
You should make your parents comfortable.
I decided to star in Radio Star...
for my parents' sake.
That's right.
It sounds like...
he only needs enough money...
to get by as an artist and rapper.
- That's it. - That's it, right?
- That's it. - How much money are you thinking?
- 2,000 to 3,000 dollars a month. - No.
I think you would need 1,500 dollars a month.
He doesn't spend much money. He lives frugally.
- He doesn't live extravagantly. - I see that he lives frugally.
He lives a simple life.
All right.
That's good.
I can see you really like him.
I really like him.
- You know... - I thought I was looking at myself.
- Seriously. - Eung Soo,
now that the topic came up,
use the restroom first and have Bassagong go afterward.
That's a good idea.
- That's a good idea. - Bassagong,
call me over to a rapping program.
We can use the restroom together.
I can see you really like him.
(Flex in the restroom.)
- Eung Soo. - I am seeing the hope of Korea.
Eung Soo, you prefer hanging out...
with young people.
- That's right. - I see.
I mostly hang out with young people...
who are about their age.
- Really? - Yes.
- I hang out... - With actors?
- With young actors? - Yes.
- Like who? - Park Hae Soo.
Park Hae Soo.
Hae Soo and I recently starred in the same movie.
Let's say I am done with the shoot first.
- Do you wait? - I wait.
I get the table.
When Hae Soo gets done first,
I tell him to get the table.
- Then... - You have a drink.
He doesn't get the table himself.
You tell him to get the table and wait.
Yes. That way, he doesn't leave.
You are thorough.
- "I will be on my way." - You are thorough.
There is a simple reason why I hang out...
with young people.
I don't want to be an old fart.
- I can't stop my body from aging. - That's right.
However,
I don't want to be an old fart.
- Let's say... - I don't want to preach.
your junior actors go,
"Please show us the Jinjinbari Dance."
"You pay for the drinks!"
- I should have known. - "You pay for the drinks!"
"You are forever out."
I see.
Sang Min, you said it's very easy for you to disguise yourself.
It's very simple.
I just need to take off my sunglasses...
- and wear a mask. - Then no one knows.
You just need to cover the other half of your face.
When you star in "King of Mask Singer",
they didn't let you leave the waiting room.
- It's like that. - They don't let you leave.
Even when you go to the restroom,
you have to wear a mask and follow the bodyguard.
However, I went everywhere.
- Really? - You wore a mask.
I took off my sunglasses and wore a mask.
I walked around without the face mask.
I even stood next to Gu Ra at one point.
- Really? - Really?
Really?
Would you show us once?
- No one would recognize him. - No one would recognize him.
I wouldn't recognize him.
No one would recognize him because he looks so young.
He looks like the webtoon artist of "Along with the Gods".
You mean Ju Ho Min.
You are right.
- Ju Ho Min. - They look the same.
When I take off my sunglasses, I look exactly like Ju Ho Min.
I was so startled for a second.
- It's strange. - It must be convenient.
I didn't know you were so popular, Car, the Garden.
You said it's inconvenient for you to use public transportation.
- My goodness. - It's not like that.
- Really? - You became a star.
- My goodness. - He became popular.
He became a star without our knowledge.
My goodness.
- Is it inconvenient? - When I was little, I was so shy...
that I couldn't press the bell on the bus.
- Were you that shy? - Why?
- I see. - I hated it when people looked.
You hated it when people looked.
- You didn't want the attention. - Often...
That's understandable.
Often, I went to the last stop because I couldn't press the bell.
I worked at a call center for a shopping mall.
There is a manual.
"X Market gives you happiness."
"I am your agent, Cha Jung Won."
"How may I help you?" I had to say those lines.
- You worked at a call center. - I couldn't do that.
When a customer called,
I said, "Yes."
The customer was like...
He or she must have been flustered.
"Isn't this X Market?"
"Yes."
(He kept his answers extremely short.)
I was unfriendly...
a few times.
- I was shy. - When did your personality change?
It changed during my army service.
I see. You were very shy before that.
You should serve in the army one more time.
(Eung Soo is mean.)
- For goodness' sake. - He is a funny man.
He is a funny man.
- He is a funny man. - He is a funny man.
What did Car, the Garden do wrong?
To change the personality,
- I would go 10 times. - He is a funny man.
If you want, I will leave the shoot.
- No, no. - He is a funny man.
- I can't believe it. - You are so drastic.
(You are so drastic.)
Bassagong, even though you are 34 years old,
you still fight with your mom.
We fight more than 10 times a month.
- We fight every time we meet. - What do you fight about?
What do you fight about?
- She does it for my sake, but... - She nags at you.
One a week,
I binge on snacks.
- You binge on snacks. - Yes.
I work out and eat healthy food six days a week.
Then I binge on snacks once a week.
- Every time I do that, - She doesn't understand.
she says, "Why do you eat snacks all the time?"
"Mom, I only eat them once a week."
That happens every week.
How old is your mom?
(Thinking)
You are a bad son.
You should know about the person you fight every day.
- She was born in 1955. - 1955.
- She is 65 years old. - 65 years old.
Right now,
your biggest supporter,
- Eung Soo, is very disappointed. - I understand.
That's right.
How do you feel?
He was so excited earlier.
He said everyone should live like Bassagong.
I am shocked...
that he still lives with his parents.
- That's right. - You should move out.
The fights are inevitable.
He has no means.
It's because you live with your parents.
Put yourself in your mom's shoes.
You are 34 years old.
(Bassagong, you are 34 years old.)
You didn't even get married.
(Struggling)
You eat lousy snacks.
"Lousy snacks".
(He pulls out his pent-up anger.)
It's no wonder she wants to kill you.
Don't you agree?
I work out...
and eat healthy food six days a week.
What does she say when you tell her that?
She doesn't believe my words.
- Of course not. - "You eat snacks every day."
"I eat snacks one a day."
His family is hilarious.
He once got hepatitis A.
- It's contagious. - Yes.
Even though he is...
a 34-year-old son who lives at home,
- they should be worried. - Yes.
His mom covered all of his plates and cutlery...
in a plastic bag.
She didn't want to get it.
She took precautions.
- She is wise. - She is thorough.
You decided to visit Radio Star for your mom.
It's understandable,
but my mom looks down on me.
Even though...
I am an indie musician, my mom doesn't know that.
- She doesn't understand. - Of course not.
She just thinks I am a 34-year-old who eats snacks.
She looks down on me.
Recently,
- she learned how to use Instagram. - Instagram.
She went through my account.
You have many fans.
She thought I only binge on snacks,
but learned that I actually work.
She now asks me, "Where do you go today?"
(That's it!)
Parents are like that.
Bassagong, you should remember this.
At that moment,
your mom acknowledged you as a human being.
That's right.
She realized that he makes a living.
At the age of 42, I starred in my 1st drama.
- You were in theater before that. - That's right.
People acknowledged me as an actor,
but my mom never saw me act on the stage.
When I appeared on a weekend drama,
my mom's shoulders...
rose by 40cm.
- I see. - Of course.
She became so proud.
That was when she began to smile at me.
I felt,
"My mom sees me as a human being now."
I shouldn't be this way,
but I feel differently.
For the past 30 years, my mom ignored me.
My mom has changed now,
but I don't feel good.
(It's his first time to receive so much attention.)
It makes me upset.
Why would she suddenly act like...
What do you want her to do?
(For goodness' sake.)
- He needs to move out. - That's right.
- He needs to move out. - He needs to move out.
Your mom is thankful for your success.
When did you rob your mom's supermarket?
When I was in middle school,
my mom ran a supermarket.
I liked the snacks.
I didn't eat a small amount.
I ate a big amount.
What kind of snacks do you like?
(Gu Ra indulges him.)
It's not about the kind.
Do you like every snack?
I like to alternate between sweetness and saltiness.
I see.
Sweetness and saltiness.
- I ate a big amount. - Your mom ran a supermarket.
Since it was a small supermarket, the business didn't go well.
- But I continued to take snacks. - I see.
My mom didn't like that.
Your mom is traumatized.
The hate against snacks didn't happen overnight.
- So I just... - I get it now.
Late at night, I broke...
- into the storage room... - You broke into it.
and bagged different snacks.
An employee from the security company came...
and asked, "Who are you?"
I said, "I am the owner's son."
Thankfully, my dad came down.
Had it been my mom, I would have flown across the room.
My dad came down.
He didn't mind. He just told me to go to my room.
That happened once.
I see why your mom hates it when you eat snacks.
She is sick and tired of it.
(It's a happy ending since he visited Radio Star.)
Sang Min, your sunglasses decided...
whether the album succeeded or failed.
Lee Hwi Jae starred in...
a segment named "TV Theater of Life" in "Sunday Night" back in the days.
It was a big hit.
- "Okay! I made up my mind." - "Okay! I made up my mind."
"My Love in Distant Memory" was always used as background music.
I sold ten thousand copies of my album a day.
- It's unimaginable now. - That's right.
I didn't have to perform on TV.
Then the owner of my agency took me...
to a hair salon.
They shaved my beard...
and gave me a perm.
I wore regular glasses and performed on TV.
When I did that,
- the album sales plummeted. - I see.
Didn't you wear blue-tinted glasses?
I wore regular glasses.
- There was no color. - There was no color.
- I had bangs because of the perm. - I see.
I looked like a fool.
(He regrets it.)
Was that when you began to wear sunglasses?
After briefly listening to the owner of the agency,
- I went back to my own style. - I see.
Then the album sales rose again.
There is a well-known story...
about how Gook Jin went to the sauna...
- in his sunglasses. - I heard that story.
Have you done that, Sang Min?
I have done it many times.
Really?
When you enter...
the sauna that way,
your sunglasses become foggy.
I even have a spray that prevents fogging.
- Really? - Yes.
Do you enter the sauna in your sunglasses?
- That's right. - That's so strange.
People laugh when I enter.
- Of course, they do. - That's right.
Isn't it like begging people to recognize you?
- That's right. - Right?
It's not like that.
In the past,
I felt like I shouldn't take off my sunglasses.
- You had that idea. - You were obsessed.
"I can't take off my sunglasses."
You worried about the album sales.
How did you wash your face?
I did it in sunglasses.
Did you do it in sunglasses?
It must have been quite a sight.
- Seriously. - It must have been quite a sight.
Did you let the water fall over you?
When I got my body scrubbed, I just lied down like this.
- How did you lie on your stomach? - I did this.
(He puts up his guard.)
I covered the sunglasses like this.
I bet you couldn't see anything.
That's so strange.
That's hilarious.
- I covered them like this. - Really?
It seems like wearing sunglasses...
is a matter of life and death...
to you, Sang Min.
A matter of life and death?
You got scrubbed in sunglasses because you thought,
"My album needs to sell ten thousand copies."
Thanks to your sunglasses, you avoided a scandal.
Everyone else in my family is a woman including my dog.
I am the only man in the house.
You are the only man.
One time, my family and I were eating at a restaurant.
We had our dog with us.
The dog was wandering. I looked behind,
and 5 or 6 big men were eating.
And my dog went there.
- Yes. - They were...
a little bit drunk.
A guy looked and said,
"Who brought a darn dog here?"
- I had to look. - It was natural.
And he said, "What are you looking at?"
The owner of the restaurant saw it...
from the beginning they were hostile at first.
I wouldn't just bring my dog in.
I got the permission beforehand.
So we argued,
- and I lost my temper. - Yes.
They were 5 men, and we were 9 women...
and me.
We were grabbing each other's hair,
and one guy was being beaten by me.
Suddenly, my mother said,
"Hey, do you know who my son is?"
So I blocked her face, I mean, her mouth.
(He covered his mother's mouth.)
They didn't know who I was...
because my sunglasses weren't tinted that dark.
They weren't tinted that dark.
- My goodness. - So they didn't know who I was.
She said, "Do you know who my son is?"
So I was like, "Mom!"
(Fortunately, there wasn't an article about him.)
Eung Soo,
you're feeling that you're getting old.
And you have a story that would make even cold-hearted Gu Ra cry.
- He never cries. - He never does.
So it's a sad story, right?
It's completely subjective.
- Okay, so it's sad. - But...
- Let's listen to it. - But...
Remember the minor collision in the parking lot? - Let's listen to it. - But...
Remember the minor collision in the parking lot?
Two weeks after the minor collision,
I had to mail a very important document.
And it costs money to mail it.
They said it was 11 dollars and 46 cents.
I found out I forgot my wallet.
- It's really embarrassing. - Yes.
So I said to the employee...
that I forgot my wallet in the car.
But it wasn't in my car.
I lied because I was embarrassed.
I went to the bathroom pretending to go to the car...
because I felt miserable.
I didn't have 11 dollars or so.
I was trying to figure it out...
and called a friend nearby.
He paid for the 11 dollars,
and I registered the mail.
Then I was on my way home,
and I felt hungry.
I parked my car at a restaurant...
that I usually go.
You're on the verge of tears.
He's on the verge of tears.
- That's hilarious. - Yes.
So you felt sad.
Then I found out I forgot the fact that I forgot my wallet.
You'll have to put it on your tab.
You must have been a regular customer.
But that was sad as I was the one experiencing it.
I was in trouble ten minutes ago,
then I should have gone home to grab the wallet.
- I forgot in the meantime. - You forgot.
- You forgot. - So I went to the counter...
and explained my situation.
Then the owner told me I don't have to pay it back.
It felt more embarrassing when I heard that.
- Because the owner said it. - Yes.
The owner must have been thinking,
- "He's getting old." - Eung Soo.
In which year were you born?
- I was born in 1961. - Then you're...
younger than Gyeong Gyu.
You're younger than most of your seniors.
Why do you keep saying you're old?
For what other reasons would this symptoms show?
You were merely distracted.
(He feels sad again.)
Come on.
- Just don't try to console me. - I mean...
- It's more upsetting. - No.
- You were only distracted. - That's not it.
- So what did you do after you ate? - Then...
Did you go to a coffee shop and...
(Did you go to a coffee shop to tell them you forgot your wallet?)
You didn't do that, did you?
- He ate and... - You didn't do it.
- Did you? - Did you go to a coffee shop?
- That's why I told the staff... - About the incident.
Gu Ra might cry when he hears this story.
- That's what I meant. - I laughed...
as much as I like.
(Double the laughter.)
Car, the Garden, you searched the reviews of your concert...
and your heart broke?
I search how they felt...
about my concert after.
They say it's distracting...
to see my face.
I thought, "That's possible."
But as those comments increase,
the comments...
and the way they criticize develop.
First they say, "I was disappointed."
And later they say, "Don't go to his concerts."
- They would say that? - It gets worse.
So one day, I replied...
to all the comments.
Because I was upset.
I wrote, "Are you any better?"
I wrote, "Mind your own business."
Then I looked at myself, and it was...
(He thought he looked pathetic...)
(replying to all the comments.)
- Right. - I realize...
that over 50 percent...
of what he says is about his looks.
Are you planning to get a plastic surgery?
(Are you planning to get a plastic surgery?)
I've seen people like him...
get plastic surgeries later on.
I gave up getting a plastic surgery.
I asked a friend of mine who's a plastic surgeon,
and he told me it'll be easier for me to be born again.
- But you look fine and unique now. - Yes.
- Where would you fix? - If I were to be born again,
I want to look like Dean.
- Dean? - The singer.
- I see. - I think...
you look like...
- Congressman Won Yu Cheol. - I've heard that a lot.
- Yes. - Yes.
Some say I look like Bae Yeon Jeong.
- You're right. - You do look like her.
And some say I look like Chae Yeon.
You're right.
- Right. - He doesn't...
- He looks like Chae Yeon. - He doesn't look like her.
- He's similar. - Are you serious?
(His face looks like a lot of other people.)
Bassagong, you were working part time,
and you found your talent unexpectedly.
I've done almost all part time jobs.
I delivered stuff, I delivered flowers and everything.
I've done all of them that college students might do.
But there are jobs I tend to avoid.
And it's about dealing with customers.
For instance, if it's a burger place,
the employee at the counter.
I couldn't use the tone.
It felt awkward.
They have a certain tone in the service industry.
So I was moving the watermelons in the summer.
That's all I have to do.
I have no opportunity to treat a customer.
I was working there,
and a manager came to me with a microphone.
Yes, he gave that to me.
Someone must have been absent.
The manager wanted you to sell.
- You had to sell watermelons. - You replaced someone.
And I could never do that kind of work.
- Yes. - Yes.
But I had no time to refuse...
because the manager left in a hurry.
- I was left alone... - Yes.
with the microphone.
- No way. - Everyone was...
shopping groceries.
I started saying useless stuff,
and I realized I could do it.
- Could you show us an example? - How did you do it?
I can't say things like,
"Ma'am, come over here and look."
But I was already doing it in spite of myself.
After a while, I became that person.
For how long did you work?
I was a part-timer for a short period,
so I did about two weeks.
- You sold things. - And it was...
- easier. - It should be.
I knew nothing about watermelons,
but I just brought the customers...
to tell them it's good.
(He got good at it.)
As I'm usually the opposite of that type of person,
it was a bit exciting to go to work...
because I could act there.
You wear a different mask.
- I have a different personality... - Yes.
when I'm there and say, "Come on, ma'am."
It was good to feel like I was living...
- someone else's life. - It must have been.
You've done a lot of part time jobs.
I think that's when you got into the habit of eating snacks.
- No. - That's not it.
His mother owned a supermarket.
- That's a habit? - His mother owned a supermarket.
- He got into the habit early. - His mother owned one.
I thought you must have been hungry when you were working there.
You try to find the story somehow.
(Bury it and double the love.)
Bassagong, there's only one partner...
that you treat with love.
- Yes, it's my dog, Kosi. - It's your dog.
- Is the name, "Kosi"? - Yes.
What do you mean that you can't do anything because of your dog?
First, I can't move out because of money,
I can't move out...
- even if I have money. - Because of your dog?
- Yes, because of my dog. - I see.
I try not to sleep out often.
- Things like that. Usually, - I see.
- I work out six days a week. - Yes.
But I do it at home. It's because...
I want to spend more time with Kosi.
Of course, she doesn't play with me while I'm working out. She sleeps.
That's great of you. He has a sense of responsibility.
I think he's lying.
I'm not lying.
- As I listened to him... - Did he make that up?
- I didn't know what he was saying. - "Nonsense."
- I would not... - You never sleep out?
I'm saying I sleep out less often.
- I take good care of her. - How long have you had her?
- I walk her every single day. - How long have you had her?
For 12 years.
- Then it's understandable. - I try to be nicer to her.
To be nicer to her.
- I'm the one who gets comfort. - Right.
- That's true. - She warms my heart when I'm weary.
- Eung Soo, is it true... - Of course.
that you're on pins and needles around your wife?
- It's getting worse. - I see.
Whenever I see her, I'm afraid of her.
But when I was hosting "Star Junior Show"...
about 10 years ago, you weren't like this.
- I wasn't like this. - Right? You weren't.
- But now... - You are now.
When she walks out of her room, I look down.
Did you do something wrong to her? Or did it just happen that way?
I have done nothing wrong.
I haven't done anything wrong,
and I don't know why, but I became like this.
Lately, what she does that scares me the most is...
She makes a drink for me.
(Laughing)
She told me that it's health supplement.
- But... - I bet you didn't drink it.
looking at the drink in a glass alone frightens me.
She often asks if I know why I'm healthy.
She says I'm healthy thanks to that drink.
She's right. She makes the drink for your health.
It scares me so much.
He's right about that.
My wife calls me like this at home.
- No way. - No way.
You're being greedy again.
No, I'm not. I'm just saying that's how I feel.
- That's how you feel? - Gosh, seriously.
- You should talk straight. - Gu Ra is right.
This is why reporters write such articles.
- You're giving them a reason. - That's right.
- "Park Sang Min Acts Like a Dog". - Exactly.
"Park Sang Min's Wife Calls Him Like She Does a Dog".
(Always be careful what you say.)
You said there's something you do for your wife.
I always eat dinner before going home.
You never did that before.
You used to make her fix you dinner. Did you stop doing that?
- Yes. - Is that right?
He used to be like that, indeed.
I had to change in order to survive.
But you deserve to ask your wife for that much?
I mean, she can fix you dinner when you come home after work.
Yes, but I decided to make it one meal per day.
So I eat only breakfast at home.
And I have nurungji for breakfast.
It takes less than five minutes to make nurungji.
I always make sure to eat dinner out.
Also, you all know how hard washing dishes can be, right?
You know it if you've done it.
It makes your back hurt.
- It's hard labor. - You're right.
You do it for your wife?
- It's not easy to do. - I see.
I do the dishes and clean the house all the time.
Even when I go home late at night.
You're not the only one. Every husband does it.
- There must be some who don't. - My gosh.
You're not going to stop eating food for your wife in the future, right?
Stop eating food?
(Laughing)
- Did I go too far? - Yes, you did.
Why can't I stop eating food for my wife?
I can even give up my life for her.
If she wants me to.
- I would do anything for her. - "I shouldn't eat nurungji either."
What I'm saying is whatever tires me must tire my wife as well.
- Wouldn't you agree? - You're right.
Do you also scratch you back against the wall...
instead of asking your wife to scratch it?
(Do you scratch your back against the wall?)
- I'm sure he doesn't do that. - How did you know?
- That's unbelievable. - Right?
- See? - Let's shake hands.
I knew it.
(Eung Soo and Gu Ra can understand each other.)
Sang Min, you said you had donated your most precious possessions.
Oh, my sunglasses?
If I have to choose between sunglasses...
that are worth 500 dollars and 1,000 dollars in cash,
- I would choose the sunglasses. - I see.
That's how much I like sunglasses.
- They're almost like part of me. - I see.
However, I had a chance to donate some of my sunglasses...
- to Cambodia. - I see.
Because of strong UV light,
- children in Cambodia... - It damages their eyes.
- That's true. - However, a pair of sunglasses...
costs them their entire monthly salary,
- at least half of it. - That's right.
If you donate your sunglasses,
they examine the children's eyes,
and give them sunglasses.
I was the first person to receive a request.
You received a request.
I spent 3 or 4 hours at home...
- You picked out good ones. - That's right.
- I thought... - You handpicked them.
I shouldn't give them cheap ones.
- I selected designer sunglasses. - So,
how many pairs of sunglasses did you donate?
I handpicked 20 pairs of sunglasses to donate.
He didn't donate as many as I thought.
- I thought he donated 200 pairs. - I thought so too.
- Your sincerity is what matters. - It's not like that.
I would've donated more if they had asked for more.
But they were surprised that I donated 20 pairs.
There aren't many people who have more than 20 pairs of sunglasses.
They probably expected 3 or 4 pairs.
- Of course. - I donated a lot of money before.
- We know that. - We all know that.
I gave my junior actors...
more than 20 pairs of sunglasses.
(It's great of him to donate 20 pairs.)
Bassagong, you said your goal is to not become like...
Sleepy, DinDin, and Nucksal.
I'm close friends with Nucksal.
We've been friends since before he became famous.
Whenever we had a drink together when we were younger,
Nucksal acted like he had Artist Syndrome.
Whenever he got drunk,
- he would slam the table saying, - He got serious?
- "We're artists." - He talked about music?
He went on about what we should never do.
But now, he wears Pippi Longstocking braids and all.
(Happy)
- It's same for Sleepy and DinDin? - Of course.
It's understandable.
- But it's not easy. - Then how famous...
do you want to become through Radio Star?
- To be on the internet hit list? - I would be satisfied...
- if my mom won't look down on me. - Would that be enough?
That would be good enough for me.
What if you can become more famous,
and make your mother proud?
That would be great if I can make my mom proud.
- Fame is a good thing. - Actually, it's ironic...
Someone said this on this show.
He said he doesn't want to become more famous, but...
- It was Ryu Seung Soo. - Right.
- Was it him who said it? - Yes. Seung Soo said it.
(I wish no one knew me,)
(but I were very rich.)
I can't work as a cleaner until I turn 60.
- So I... - You want to be famous enough...
- just to support yourself? - Exactly.
You can say I'm greedy.
You are unbelievably greedy.
(You are unbelievably greedy.)
- Do you think Nucksal likes braids? - That's the hardest thing to do.
(Do you think Nucksal likes braids?)
Sang Min wears sunglasses for a reason.
- Exactly. - It helps to sell 10,000 copies.
Exactly.
Being popular is better than being unknown.
It's better to be famous.
- Of course. - Also,
I don't think you will gain enormous popularity.
I will... Understood.
- That would be even sadder. - Of course.
- Don't be too afraid. - There's a high probability...
that things will go the way you want them to.
You will not likely become a super star overnight...
- just like Zico. - I know that.
So just enjoy what you can get.
(Make hay while the sun shines, Bassagong.)
Eung Soo, you played many roles...
of traitor, which most actors try to avoid.
I wonder if you have any standards in choosing dramas or movies.
"Traitor"?
(Everyone laughs.)
- Like a role of Japanese... - My goodness.
Why would you get riled up?
She was talking about...
- the characters you played. - I mean,
- I didn't call you a traitor. - Like a Japanese detective...
- during the Japanese occupation. - Exactly.
- You played such characters. - Your roles in dramas.
Interestingly, all the dramas I chose were successful.
- Right? - That's true.
But other people say...
that I've been just lucky.
"Why does everything you do go well?"
When I get offers for a part in five different dramas,
I choose 1 or 2 of them by myself.
And of course, I have my own standard...
- in choosing the dramas to play in. - Yes.
That's what she asked about.
And it's...
- my gut feeling. - Your gut feeling?
I follow my gut feeling.
- Gosh. - It's his gut feeling.
- What else could it be? - I expected something logical.
- There's no logic to it. - Exactly.
- He follows his gut feeling. - I follow my gut feeling.
- He has a gut feeling... - That's not logical at all.
Are you laughing at me?
(No, we're not.)
- He's being bossy again. - No.
- He's being bossy again. - He got upset.
You two, listen to me carefully.
(Oh, gosh.)
- You're in your 30s, right? - Yes.
Bassagong, it's okay if you earn less than 2,000 dollars a month now.
What you need to do now is to train yourself to improve your sense.
When you become my age,
you won't need anything else.
You have a gut feeling about it.
If you have a gut feeling that helps you predict...
how your life would turn out at the age of 45,
you will become successful.
When you're in your late 40s,
based on whether you've gained an insight or not,
- the outcome would be determined. - Hold on. You said if you...
- lecture like this is being bossy. - That's right.
It wasn't that bad.
(When I was younger...)
I wasn't lecturing them.
He just trusted his gut instinct.
He decided he wouldn't look bossy based on his gut instinct.
Exactly.
(If you ignore my instinct, I'll act bossy.)
Unexpectedly, Eung Soo writes a letter every day.
That's right.
You get notifications from the messenger...
- about your friends' birthdays. - That's right.
I send every one of them a congratulatory message.
Oh, I see.
Do you send the same message to all of them?
- No, I don't do that. - You just change the names?
For example, if it's Bassagong's...
- 34th birthday, - Yes.
I would write a message that is suitable for his age.
What if you send Bassagong a birthday message?
- If today is his birthday. - Let's say today is his birthday.
Dear Bassagong. You've been rowing your boat until now.
- From now on... - He's improvising.
From now on, make sure to keep going...
in the right direction, so you won't be lost.
I write messages like this.
And don't focus on the shell.
- "Don't focus on the shell"? - Lose the shell.
Since he's been writing screenplays,
he's good at writing.
Do you also give them a gift?
I don't know how to send a gift.
By the way, the last time you came on the show,
you said you were working on a screenplay to become a director.
Are you still working on it?
There has been a change of plans.
Is that so? You said you'll become a film director.
You went on and on about your screenplay.
I'm thinking of a romantic movie about a man and a woman...
- who meet on a train. - I see.
A movie like "Poppoya"?
Or like "Before Sunset"?
- It's not like those movies. - "Snowpiercer"?
Well...
I guess it's not like any of those.
What he said bothers you, right?
I want Jong Shin back here.
("Snowpiercer" is not a romantic movie.)
- Bring him back here. - We said romantic movies.
"Snowpiercer"?
- Eung Soo was taken aback. - Tell Jong Shin to come back.
It's hard to fill his absence.
- Right? It bothered you. - It sure did.
You shouldn't say things without thinking.
- You should do as well as we do. - That's right.
I'm thinking of becoming a director, to revive romantic movies.
- The revival of romantic movies. - Yes.
- That's a good catchphrase. - Yes.
But what? The catchphrase is good, but what?
- I was moving on. - The director is not good?
That's not what I meant.
I was saying it will be successful since it's a good catchphrase.
- Gu Ra. - Yes?
You might get a chance to play the lead role.
- No. I don't... - You will wear...
- a trench coat. - Are you hiring him?
("Not Recommended", directed by Kim Eung Soo)
Are Car, the Garden's rivals really girl groups?
I like soju very much.
- Actresses or girl groups are... - In advertisements.
- the models for soju brands. - That's true.
But I always tell my friends...
that if Choi Min Sik appears in the advertisement of a soju brand,
it would increase the sales dramatically.
- I agree. - Usually, the models...
pose like this in advertisements.
It's great too,
but if Min Sik poses...
like this.
Like that?
- He would look great. - Like he's drunk.
- Like this. - Like he's drunk?
Or he could pose like he's throwing up.
That would make you crave soju.
So, you two talk about things like that when you meet.
(You talk about such things with Bassagong, right?)
What he said reminded me of something.
I have the same problem...
with men's razor commercials.
They always hire young boys who don't even have a heard.
(Young boys without a beard are in the commercials.)
For men's razor commercials.
I'm willing to shave my face.
- Just for a TV commercial? - Yes.
I also have an idea.
I'm an escaped criminal.
And there's another one with a beard.
At first, everyone recognize our faces.
But then we shave our faces.
- Then no one recognizes you. - No one recognizes us.
- It's a brilliant idea. - Actually,
Kim Heung Gook told me the same idea.
I told him.
- He told what I had told him. - I see.
- Heung Gook also said, - It was his idea.
"Why don't they hire me?"
"You know, I have an idea."
- Was it your idea? - It was my idea.
Is that so?
(Change your blades to change your look.)
Eung Soo said...
- he loves Octover. - It's October.
All right. Gosh.
It's not Octover. It's October.
- October. - I got confused.
It's October.
- Can't I say Octover? - Gu Ra...
- It's October. - October?
I was born on October 3.
- Fine. October. - Good.
- That's good. - You said you love October.
Is there a particular reason?
It's because of a vegetable called bog rhubarb.
A vegetable?
- Bog rhubarb? - It has bitter taste.
- It's harvested in spring. - Oh, right.
When it starts to sprout,
I go to my mother's house and pick it.
And I eat it with my mother.
- Oh, vegetables... - And in autumn,
it sprouts again.
In October.
You should pick it before it's frosted.
I celebrate the start of spring with bog rhubarb.
- With that bitter taste. - I see.
And I also finish the year with the bitter taste.
- That's so cool. - Since he said he knows...
the names of vegetables and how they look,
we prepared a test.
I heard you know how they look.
What's this?
- What is it? - This one.
It has a flower too.
It looks like a mantis from a distant.
I think that's just a weed.
It's not a vegetable we eat.
- A weed? - Oh, it's shepherd's purse flower.
Shepherd's purse flower?
- It's shepherd's purse. - All right. Let's see.
- You have a chance... - It's shepherd's purse.
(Correct)
You do know much about it.
You can't eat it when flowers start blooming.
- He knows a lot about it. - We can't eat it?
- It becomes toxic. - It's edible...
It becomes toxic?
Now, let's look at this one.
- That's bog rhubarb. - Oh, bog rhubarb?
- Your favorite one? - Yes.
- Then he must know. - Bog rhubarb?
(He got it right again.)
Oh, this is bog rhubarb.
The stalk is tasty.
- What's this? - That's ragwort.
- Yanggu is famous for its ragwort. - Ragwort?
It has good scent.
There's a ragwort festival held in Yanggu.
- What does it say? - It says "curled mallow".
(What... What?)
- Curled mallow. - Give me that, so I can see.
You didn't even take a close look?
- You can read it from there. - He keeps saying that.
- It says right here. - Look.
- Just admit you were wrong. - Give it to him.
- He doesn't trust us. - It's not curled mallow.
It says it's curled mallow.
- Give me that. - Why?
Here. Take a closer look at it.
Would it make any difference?
It's not curled mallow.
- What is it, then? - Just admit it.
No. It's a medicinal plant...
for athlete's foot. You can apply it on the foot.
- For athlete's foot? - It's not curled mallow.
- Then what's this? - What's that?
- That's wild chive. - Wild chive?
That's correct.
There's no curled mallow like this. Is it American curled mallow?
There's no curled mallow like this. It's not curled mallow.
- It's not curled mallow? - No.
- There's no way. - Is that so?
- Curled mallow, my foot. - I don't know how it looks.
It's amazing because...
Our staff say it really is curled mallow.
No. Gosh.
Listen to me.
If you type curled mallow in the "N" web portal,
- it's the first photo to come up. - It really is curled mallow.
There's no way it's curled mallow.
- Look. It's the same photo. - He found the same photo.
It says it's curled mallow.
- That doesn't look like this. - Let me see.
Come on. It's curled mallow. Admit it already.
This is curled mallow.
It's curled mallow.
That doesn't look like shepherd's purse either.
- Gosh, seriously. - It's shepherd's purse.
- He only became doubtful. - Stop denying it.
(Vegetable Expert)
(The vegetable expert withers away with a wrong answer.)
You are watching a high-end music program, Radio Star.
Today's theme is for those who need to...
break out of their shells and change their public images.
- "The Song To Crush My Shell". - "My Shell".
What song did Car, the Garden choose?
("Don't Forget" by Baek Z Young, a breakup song...)
(with heart-wrenching lyrics and incredibly high notes)
Would his voice suit this song?
- His voice does. - Exactly.
In fact,
- I have a high vocal range. - Indeed.
So I enjoy singing female singers' songs.
- I often sing this song at karaoke. - "Don't Forget".
His voice has a sentimental vibe, so I think it's good for sad songs.
You will be surprised.
Shall we hear Car, the Garden sing "Don't Forget"?
All right.
("Don't Forget" performed by Car, the Garden)
(We used to love each other)
(He's immersed in the song.)
(But now, we're breaking up)
(His calm, yet heart-wrenching voice...)
(the lyrics feel even sadder.)
(Does he have a similar experience?)
(Until now, people judged me by my appearance.)
(I was misunderstood.)
(People thought I looked scary and rough.)
(The misunderstandings made me cry so many times.)
(That image of me was fixed.)
(Misunderstandings)
(I couldn't show my true color.)
(Misunderstandings)
(It was hard to see because the misunderstandings piled up.)
(Misunderstandings)
(Now, please see my true color.)
(I am a pure-hearted, young man who loves singing.)
(Please do not get me wrong.)
That was amazing.
- He has such a great voice. - That was beautiful.
- So, he really is a singer. - Yes, he's a singer.
Until you heard him singing,
you doubted that he was a singer for the past four hours.
- He finally acknowledged him. - He doubted him for four hours.
- "He really is a singer." - I'm relieved.
The way he sings high notes is very attractive.
- Indeed. - He has...
such a great voice that has aspects of...
both a man and woman's voices.
That sounds so unique. A man and woman's voices...
- co-exist in his voice. - That's right.
His face also has features of both a man and woman's faces.
(He reminds of the politician and the singer.)
Don't you agree?
He's saying we should wrap up quickly.
- He wants to wrap up now. - You know me well.
His face?
- He has both features, right? - He's speaking without thinking.
Jae Hyung was today's special MC. How was it?
He did a great job.
I was worried so much.
You didn't have to worry.
But I had such a great time and laughed a lot.
I'm not sure if I did well.
You became a fan of Eung Soo's, right?
Yes, I did.
I became his fan too.
I'm going to watch his part again when I'm bored.
- He's hilarious. - Indeed.
Since we talked to these four stars who lost their shells,
all the misunderstandings were resolved.
We'll be waiting for the stories...
of those who want to clear up a misunderstanding,
or to change their public images.
We will say goodbye here. See you next week.
- Please. - Please.
(See you again next week!)
(The Game of Thrones special will visit you next week.)
("We" by Baek Z Young)